DIFFERENTIALS.
36 days...
Talked with Ida for a good topic but we both couldn't think of any. She suggested some stuff like i did in the "Gossip" post, and thanks to that i guess i've thought of a perfect topic after a few days. For the recent months i've been thinking, i even consulted with Jeremiah for some things. This should be of a good discussion, i think.
Talked with Ida for a good topic but we both couldn't think of any. She suggested some stuff like i did in the "Gossip" post, and thanks to that i guess i've thought of a perfect topic after a few days. For the recent months i've been thinking, i even consulted with Jeremiah for some things. This should be of a good discussion, i think.
Here goes...
Why is it that a change of perspective could affect a nation? Why does it cause rallies on the streets? Why destabilize? What could be the possible reason? Is it because of change? Dissatisfaction? Perhaps because of power?
Before that... why is there "power" in the first place?
Before that... why is there "power" in the first place?
Basically, we know that power should go somewhere and not get stuck in one place. It ain't considered as "power" when it is idle. As Physics said: "Power is defined as the rate of speed that a specific work is accomplished. To understand Power, it is first necessary to define Work." [source: http://www.dr-fix-it.com/defpower.html]
POWER = WORK / time [P=W/t]
Generally-speaking [whether it be practical or philosophical], there is no power performed if there's no work done. Turning the statement, Power exists because of Work [now i'm definite of this to be something like "kung walang work, walang power... (buhbye!) *sabay-kaway*"]. So Work is a definite reason for Power.
Now... is reason "power"?
We all reason to answer something, often clarified using the question "Why". In another related view of the word, reason is the cause itself. Reasoning is also related to logic and rationality. But is it related directly to power?
Jeremiah said, "reason is considered as a form of power when it is used for making correct decisions." I said: "reason NEEDS power to be conclusive and convincing." Yet i do think it's not something like "kung walang reason, walang power... (buhbye!) *sabay-kaway*" to define reason directly with power [i dunno if the other way around's logically-correct, though]. Ang labo diba? o.O
So both of us are aligned in one perspective: that reason isn't always power. That's why we've got "invalid reasons" to begin with... which is usually a form of lie.
Yet here's a good argument:
Q: So, what about "reasoning power" or "the power to reason"? Is the word phrase wrong?
I'll leave the explanation to you guys. ^^
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Now, let's move on to "change". Why are there changes?
Every move we make affects our current posture/stature. Wikipedia said: "In modern physics, the concept of change is associated with action." So it's an undeniable fact that we will witness change occur always, and in a lifetime. Yet the irony of it: it's not always automatic to favor with change.
Some still needs to adapt in a specific flow of change. Sometimes it does take time to completely ride with the flow of change. Some people loves change, and some hates it... while some are scared of it. And as Jeremiah stated a clearer point of view: "a sudden change sometimes lead to a feeling of betrayal."
Everything of naturality, even stagnant things, changes in time. Animals migrate, trees grow old, rocks deform, stars and planets move away from orbit, heavenly bodies hit and damages each other, and the most obvious change of all: mankind.
Change is originally natural. Some do force change to happen, sometimes causing anarchy in our nation. But whatever happens, change exists while we are alive and beyond death. Our bodies will rot when we die.
From politics, down to ourselves. Acceptance of this reality sometimes isn't as simple as we think it is.
Share your thoughts...
* Boy Abunda: "Kaibigan... tara, usap tayo." *sabay-kindat* ^^,
So, did i make a good discussion?
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Friends, Romans, Countrymen...
Natiklo po ng pulisya ang anak ni Ramon Tulfo na si Patrick Tulfo, as he attempted to extort from my brother's company yesterday(12 April 2007), pretending to expose the company (as if they are violating laws between the countries they are working in and for). Sa susunod, when you want to be like your father, at least do it legally and without ulterior motives.
~Ayun~
Hemingways, going back to the argument at hand, whether reason is power. We are really attempting to find the logic in our quoted phrase: "reason is power... and power has its own reason..."
Now, based on the argument stated in this blog, we must first see if we have explained the argument.
Does power and reason stand at the same level(Reason IS Power)?
First of all, REASON, in this context seem to mean the philosophical definition of Reason: "the faculty or power of acquiring intellectual knowledge, either by direct understanding of first principles or by argument" (dictionary.com). It said power! But then, what is power? Is our definition correct?
From Dictionary.com again, Power is: "ability to do or act; capability of doing or accomplishing something".
In our existing argument, we need first work(action) to have power. Physics, it seems, will have to agree. But in our definition, which is the common way we would define power, it IS the ability to act. Thus it either preceeds or comes together with the action, or the work.
So, now, is the internet definition of power and reason support the first part of the quote?
Reason here is called a faculty or power. By faculty, it means ability(and not a group of teachers). Reason is an ability. Is ability, then, a power? The ability to do something such as defend an argument or have a logical(valid) understanding of something are POWERS, did it say?
By definition of power in the general sense(and not the Physics sense), YES. It gets you to do something, in this case, understand or argue.
For the second part of the phrase: "Power has its own Reason".
Does Power have the ability to Reason? I don't suppose Power CAN take action. Can it?
In this context, we have replaced the meaning of Reason, other than simply an ability, but, in a second definition: "a statement presented in justification or explanation of a belief or action"(ibid.). Thus, it is saying that Power has its justifications. Reason here has stopped being a power, but an object.
Does Power have justifications? What is it being justified from or for?
~To be continued(we have to eat)~
Mairepost nga yang notice about sa anak ni Tulfo in a while...
Ayan nah... now i do see my flaws using the practical/physical application compared to your in-depth review of my post. ^^,
So first part pa lang toh lunod na ko wakekekek! Subukan ko makisabay sa levels mu kahit di ko kakayanin. Anyway, provided the dictionary definition of Power states that Power is an Ability to do or act. Now, let's see what Ability defines [naghahanap ako ng philosophical definition pero la ako makita, so i'll stick with this for the meantime since you also used the dictionary definition of Power]:
1. power or capacity to do or act physically, mentally, legally, morally, financially, etc.
2. competence in an activity or occupation because of one's skill, training, or other qualification: the ability to sing well.
3. abilities, talents; special skills or aptitudes: Composing music is beyond his abilities.
Yep, it seems like Power is directly related to Ability. "Ability is the general word for Power", it says. But take note of #2. Competence [briefed] in an activity because of one's Skill. It says Skill. Now what is Skill?
1. the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well: Carpentry was one of his many skills.
2. competent excellence in performance; expertness; dexterity: The dancers performed with skill.
3. a craft, trade, or job requiring manual dexterity or special training in which a person has competence and experience: the skill of cabinetmaking.
4. Obsolete. understanding; discernment.
5. Obsolete. reason; cause.
#1 states a view that it is an ability, coming from one's knowledge, PRACTICE, aptitude, etc., to do something well. Knowledge, in a sense of [i think] acquired. Practice, i think, supports definition #3. While aptitude is innate, perhaps naturally-capable of acquiring something easily. But then an obsolete definition in #5 says Skill is "reason; cause"... making a little shock in the argument. o.O
Digging thoroughly to the related words, i found out that Power = Ability = Skill = Reason.
It's something like from an IQ test: if some Powers are Abilities, and some Abilities are Skills, and some Skills are Reasons, then some Powers are definitely Reasons.
So, does this make things right?
Balik ako pag me part 2 ka na. ^^,
What is POWER being Justified for?
Let's look back at the definitions for power.
1. power or capacity to do or act physically, mentally, legally, morally, financially, etc.
2. competence in an activity or occupation because of one's skill, training, or other qualification: the ability to sing well.
3. abilities, talents; special skills or aptitudes: Composing music is beyond his abilities.
(galing sa post ni Rai)
Justification is a means to defend a certain fact or event. It also says that something is necessary, or happens for a reason. For us, it's Power, though we have yet to see what is Power being defended for/from.
It's like asking, "What is your Power for?" Well there are a variety of reasons, depending on what that power is, and where it is used for. So the answer would be vague, no singular reason could be derived, unless we are specifically talking about the Power of Reason.
What is the Power of Reason for?
Well, it is in the definition for Reason: a statement presented in justification or explanation of a belief or action. In this manner, it would be easier to say that this thing, this statement has some justification, because it is used to defend or explain something. It is used to inform, using the facts available to the person giving out the reason, another person who has an opposing statement, or a lack of knowledge in the idea that the reason is made for.
So, does power have its own reason?
Logically, yes.
But the entire quote: reason is power...and power has its own reason... is not unified, which means it is not saying just one meaning of power and one meaning of reason.
Nosebleed...
power wouldn't always be the cause for reason, but it is, more often than not, a word more powerful than power, is, gentlemen, DESIRE...
WORK is FORCE times DISTANCE
work = (f x d)
the force there is desire...
desire - word too short for the wonder/destruction it brings.
as for change,
as they say as usual,
it is the only permanent thing in this world...
and as for the acceptance of it, that would be another matter...
kung wlang paggalaw, wlang work, kung work, ergo, wlang power
-imadria
(masarap ang taho na ang syrup ay strawberry jam)
Argh, di naapektuhan sa obsoletion post ko =)).
Pero while Power is an Ability, where we are always "able/capable" to perform Power... that leaves you a set of choices, doesn't it?
You are "able" to; yet you MAY or MAY NOT act to use this Ability called "Power". There are conditions/requirements of having an "Ability" before you can properly perform it, right?
In our case of your philosophical definition of Reason [as a "faculty" or "power" in a sense of understanding or argument]. In the context "By definition of power in the general sense(and not the Physics sense), YES. It gets you to do something, in this case, understand or argue.", and we backtrack that we used this to define Reason as an Ability [thus a Power], what would happen if that Ability's general requirements were incomplete? Would Reason still be considered as an Ability, thus a Power? Or does that make it automatically "NOT-Reason"?
With this i could say that the Physical definition of Power is still correct [kung walang work walang power... (buhbye!) *sabay-kaway*] because if Reason is an Ability, there is certainly a requirement. Reason could be weak or strong, depending on our capability of it.
But does that make Reason more parallel to Power [thus proving that Reason IS Power]?
o.O
Power has its own reasons, well i think i should agree with this one. Like i said, every power should lead to something. I might've had an error when i used P=W/t, but as i said Work is the originating branch of Power. And that power should lead somewhere... and how would you get it somewhere? WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. Power will have a Reason when we do something about it, that is... having it used for something, like having a goal. If we don't do something, then there's no point of having that power.
And, yes. Nagulat ako sa DESIRE thingy ni Ida at nadagdagan ang Physical formulas natin. It does make sense:
W = F x D
Work needs movement. Movement in a sense of "motivation" or based from a set of "instructions", perhaps what Ida says as "Desire" or as for me, an "AMBITION" [not a dream]. Multiplied by how large your Motivation is [in the formula, DISTANCE]... that would be the end result for Work, which is required to have POWER. [this goes for the physical definition]
Galing ng idea mu Icecrim. ^^
But this idea makes Power already moving on its own. o.O
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